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How Young is Too Young? Exploring children’s use of social media: An Interview with Andy Affleck

Andy Affleck is an alum of Dartmouth College. He is leading the development of an iOS/Android application for a startup called Ozmott and is also the author of Take Control of Podcasting on the Mac. He’s written numerous articles for TidBITS and is the proud father of an 11 year old.

Andy Affleck, twitter: @aaffleck

Your son attended the Waldorf School where modern technology and media – TVs, computers, mobile phones, video games, and so on – are severely restricted. Did you adhere to the same policy at home? 

We did adhere to the policy. Our son attended the Waldorf School during the 2nd and 3rd grades and, at those ages, I felt there was little value in technology as anything other than casual entertainment. The school policy was no media during the week (TV, computers, etc.) and limited use on the weekends. So, he got to play on a few websites he liked (Webkinz, mostly) on the weekend. Now that he is older, there is more value to be had, and he is at a school that makes good use of technology both at school and at home.

You left the Harvard Graduate School of Education’s Technology in Education program with the firm belief that computers in education make more sense at older ages than at younger ages. What other ideas did you take away from the program?

At younger ages, children need concrete experiences. They will get a lot more out of working with physical objects than they will virtual ones. At a younger age, I just don’t think children are that great at making the translation from the virtual to the real, at least not consistently, so I don’t really think there’s much point in using a computer as an educational tool. It is just entertainment at that age and should be treated the same way TV is. As they get older, their ability to conceptualize grows and they can start to make that translation.

If there was an online course for parents to teach that transition for children into social media, what topics would be necessary?

First and foremost, parents need to understand the mechanics of how these systems work. They need to be able to see who is speaking to their child in the various possible ways (Facebook comments, instant messaging, text messaging, etc.); they need to understand how to properly set privacy settings to protect them; and they need to understand how these systems can be used for both good and for bad so they are prepared to deal with any situations that come up. All too often, parents know too little about the way these systems work (and Facebook seems to go out of its way to make it difficult to understand, and then change it often enough so you never can stay caught up) and so let their kids use them without any proper supervision or ability to help them out when they need help. If kids sense that their parents have no clue, they won’t even go to them for help, so the parents may not even realize there is a problem.

The analogy I like to use is a parent taking a child into a big city for the first time. They hold their hand. They explain the cross walks. They warn them about the scary yellow cars. They explain about keeping themselves safe and what to do if they get separated from their parents, and so on. In the same way, parents should be working with their children to understand this new world of social media, how to safely navigate the streets and crosswalks of Facebook and such and stay safe. They would never let their child go into the city alone by themselves on their first visit and they shouldn’t do that with social media either.

What are the biggest dangers of introducing children to social media?

The biggest danger is a parent who doesn’t understand anything an let their children go without supervision before the child is ready to be alone. I believe parents have a responsibility to teach their children to be good, decent people. They teach their children how to be polite, how not to say mean or hurtful things, how to be a friend to people and how to be kind to strangers. By the same token, they need to do this with social media. We do not need another generation of people who all post the kinds of horrible things you see on any given YouTube comment thread. And we need to teach children that the only person in history who had the right to shout “First!” was Neil Armstrong.

How much of a responsibility should schools take in guiding students towards using social media in smart, effective and ethical ways?

I go back and forth on this one. Schools are involved with socializing children. If your child is bullying another, the school will ask you to come in and talk to them and work with them on a way to address the issue. By the same token, that should extend to social media. Of course, most — if not all! — of what happens on a site like Facebook is not on school property and outside of their jurisdiction. So it is not clear that schools have any business saying anything about behavior online. That said, I think it would be a wise thing for schools to do some work with kids on good online behavior in general the same way they do anti-bullying presentations. I don’t know how effective these things are, but it’s a start.

Some adults have decided that to remove social media from their lives because they feel it’s completely unnecessary. Are there benefits to introducing social media into a child’s life?

I am a firm believer that no child should be allowed a Facebook account until they are 13, as that is the official policy of Facebook. Even when they are 13, it is the parent’s job to determine if their child is emotionally mature enough to handle social media and be a good online citizen. That said, I see a few advantages:

1) It is a great way to stay connected after a move. My son has a number of friends he still talks about that he hasn’t seen in a few years. I imagine him getting reconnected through Facebook in a few years.

2) Often times, kids aren’t going to school in their local community. My son goes to school that’s at least 10 miles away. His best friends outside of the city on the opposite side from us. Getting the kids together requires a lot of driving so after school meet-ups are not common. Right now, they use the phone a lot, but I can see social media taking the place when they are old enough to get online in that way.

3) LOLCATS. Ok, maybe not.

Can we live without social media?

Sure. We can live without all technology. But life would be a little more boring, at least for me. I enjoy my interactions online and have caught up with friends I haven’t spoken to in years who live far, far away. Would I die if my Facebook account went away tomorrow? No. But I would be sad. It enriches my life and I like having it there.

 

Lisa Chau has been involved with Web 2.0 since graduate school at Dartmouth College, where she completed an independent study on blogging. She was subsequently highlighted as a woman blogger in Wellesley Magazine, published by her alma mater. Since 2009, Lisa has worked as an Assistant Director at the Tuck School of Business. In 2012, she launched GothamGreen212 to pursue social media strategy projects. You can follow her on twitter

Tumblbeasts: 14; Lisa: 0

I started blogging around 2004. Frankly, I didn’t think much about my choice of platform. Most of the blogs I followed were hosted by Blogger, so I registered there as well. Then Dartblog started offering students a blog presence. If you can’t already tell, I bleed green. Of course, I signed up for a Dartmouth-affiliated page. Shortly thereafter, more & more of my friends started LiveJournaling. Thus, I was “forced” to join LJ if wanted access to posts locked from public viewing and commenting.

That’s how these social networking sites gain new users. Make people register for accounts even if they only want to view content. Insidious!

Speaking of insidious… Well, hello there, Facebook. Do I really need to elaborate? I think we all know what happened. They know way more about the last 5 years of my life than my family knows about my entire life. (Granted, I chose to put all those details into their database.) Looking back, I’ve left a scattered legacy of abandoned false-starts & experiments on Blogger, Friendster, Orkut, Twitter, LiveJournal, Flickr… Just to name a several. I had multiple accounts on a few because wiping the slate completely clean was simply more efficient than editing an unruly mass of existing content. All part of the learning process that has led up to the internet as it exists today.

Which is to say, social media has matured, but it still has a ways to go. Every time Facebook makes a major change in its appearance, interface or “Terms of Service,” I liken it to a teenager trying on another identity. It’s getting a little old, though, and I’m surprised a younger upstart hasn’t disrupted the Zuckerberg monopoly.

Yet.

In any case, I decided late last year to take everything I’ve gleaned from my virtual journey and funnel it into a persona standardized across multiple platforms, connected via my personal launching page. You’ll see I left Blogger to try Tumblr. I didn’t think much about my choice of platform. This time, however, I was sorely disappointed.

* * *

Despite the deplorable color scheme of Blogger, it always worked. The interface was intuitive. Features most people would need or want were built-in. My self-taught HTML skills were handy on occasion, but not necessary. Kind of like buying a Subaru Outback for winter in New Hampshire. It’s not a stylish car, but everyone drives one because it does what you need it to do. Function over form.

Every so often, I am startled by my naïve expectation that new, hyped products on the market are supposed to be an improvement over its established predecessors. Isn’t that what is accounting for their popularity? No.

I learned that lesson the hard way. I let myself be lured by the Siren song of Tumblr. I could barely finish reading their “30 Reasons to Love Tumblr” list.

Email address / Password / Choice of URL

Start posting!

Easy!

Car salesmen wish it were that easy to sell lemons. And that’s what I got. A pretty, hollow lemon.

First, I had to dust off my HTML coding knowledge to customize my template. There are a lot of pre-fabricated choices, but many are very similar with slight variations. Then, because Tumblr doesn’t support native commenting, I had to install Disqus. Then I had to add anti-spam measures. Then Google Analytics…

When can I start blogging?  This is tedious! I expected a fully loaded car—erm—blogging platform.

Too many hours later, my blog looked close enough to presentable. I was ready to take it out for a spin on the [information] super highway, but…

WHY DIDN’T ANYONE WARN ME ABOUT THE TUMBLBEASTS???

Tumblbeasts are to Tumblr as the Fail Whale is to Twitter. The Tumblbeasts are enough for me to consider moving on to WordPress; however, if you are undeterred by them, I have other reasons to leave:

  • No auto save.
  • No one-click button to save drafts. (I’ve had to re-type several long posts.)
  • The bullet function does not work past one level. Indenting doesn’t work, either.
  • Dragging and dropping to rearrange the order of queued posts is inefficient, especially if you have several long posts.
  • Is there some way to compact the view of individual entries?
  • The dashboard feed takes too long to load, even if you’re on a dedicated Ethernet line.
  • A navigational button bar should follow user scrolling.
  • The feed page: It’s ugly and only utilizes a third of my page.
  • Tags that users have already created should be listed for easy reuse.
  • Where’s my tag cloud?
  • Grouping. I want to read my philosophy feed separate from my fashion feed separate from my social media feed.

The only reason I’ll consider giving Tumblr a little more time to convince me to stay is that it seems to be building critical mass. Fast. And in Web 2.0, you need to be where everyone else is.

Lisa Chau has been involved with Web 2.0 since graduate school at Dartmouth College, where she completed an independent study on blogging. She was subsequently highlighted as a woman blogger in Wellesley Magazine, published by her alma mater. Since 2009, Lisa has worked as an Assistant Director at the Tuck School of Business. In 2012, she launched GothamGreen212 to pursue social media strategy projects. View her online portfolio or follow her on Twitter.

What is Social Media? Why Do We Care?

Social Media. Hate it or love it, everyone talks about it. And has an opinion about it.

While everyone is exposed to it daily, how many people really know what it is?

You, being a self-selecting audience, would likely be able to provide an informed response. Others, however, might simply blurt, “Facebook!” as if that alone explained all.

For my first blog post, I wanted to consider the basics of what we’re discussing. Together, the words “social” and “media” form fabricated jargon which appeared sometime after the advent of Web 2.0, as explained on Wikipedia:

“…web applications that facilitate participatory information sharing, interoperability, user-centered design and collaboration on the World Wide Web. A Web 2.0 site allows users to interact and collaborate with each other in a social media dialogue as creators (prosumers) of user-generated content in a virtual community, in contrast to websites where users (consumers) are limited to the passive viewing of content that was created for them. Examples of Web 2.0 include social networking sites, blogs, wikis, video sharing sites, hosted services, web applications, mashups and folksonomies.”

Social media became inextricably tied to the internet sometime after 2004. Nonetheless, I argue that social media has existed as long as mass media has reacted to reader submissions and/or called readers to action. Media being a tool for information delivery; social defined as any form of interaction between two entities, corporations or individuals. Reprinted letters to the Editor? Social media. Paper flyers for organizing protests? Social media.

Communication + Collaboration = Social Media.

Social media as we know it today, rooted within a virtual context, crept into common households through online journals and college kids on Facebook. In 2004, I told someone I planned to do my independent study on blogging. He asked, “You want to study websites about people’s cats?”

Since the days of feline photos and emotionally fueled teenager musings, the growth of social media has grown exponentially. Can we visit any of the top 50 most popular sites on the Internet without coming across one-click options to Tweet / Facebook / + 1 / Share / email?

The number of social media users and social companies continues to rise globally, and the barrier to entry is relatively low.

Why does this matter?

The internet has made communications almost instantaneous and far reaching. Political groups can now rally more efficiently. Companies can spread their branding with ease. The possibility for danger and/or profit has been multiplied. Witness the revolutionaries who used Twitter to spread their message and organize troops faster and wider than any paper campaign could have achieved. Witness firms that pour money and time into data mining Facebook.

On a personal level, social media has simultaneously extended our networks while closing distances between degrees of separation. It transcends time and geography. It archives our lives online and allows some semblance of control over our public persona.

Social media is a powerful force we still don’t fully comprehend. It can be dangerous. It recognizes almost no boundaries, and it’s still growing.

And that’s why we care about this double-edged sword.

Lisa Chau has been involved with Web 2.0 since graduate school at Dartmouth College, where she completed an independent study on blogging. She was subsequently highlighted as a woman blogger in Wellesley Magazine, published by her alma mater. Since 2009, Lisa has worked as an Assistant Director at the Tuck School of Business. In 2012, she launched GothamGreen212 to pursue social media strategy projects. View her online portfolio at http://about.me/GothamGreen212. Follow her on Twitter via https://twitter.com/GothamGreen212. (In case you’re wondering, she greatly enjoys social media, admittedly spending far too much time on it.)

Videos from 2009

The first Social Media Week Conference launched earlier this year in New York.  Over the week, the organizer together with the local business community hosted over thirty five events in locations like the New York Times, Razorfish, Wired and Nielsen.

One the events was entitled Innovation in Politics, Policy, and Social Change through Social Media and was hosted at the New York Times.  Check out the full video from the event below.

Title: Innovation in Politics, Policy, and Social Change through Social Media

Description: A reflection on the Obama campaign and a look ahead at the future of harnessing social media for change.

Speakers: Panelists: Chris Hughes: Co-founder of Facebook and President Obama’s Director of Online Organizing during the campaign. Andrew Rasiej: Founder of Personal Democracy Forum, an annual conference and website covering the intersection of politics and technology, Jamie Daves: Venture capitalist and entrepreneur with over ten years of experience in the public sector who has helped found a number of successful nonprofit and political organizations. Moderator: Brian Stelter of the NY Times.

Hosted by: The New York Times

Part1

Part 2

Part 3

Social Media Week NY: Innovation in Politics, Policy, and Social Change through Social Media Pt. 3 from Panman Productions on Vimeo.

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